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  • #289
    Loupy
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    I think after Omega’s encounter with the DNA based Vorsook computer, that it might be time for an upgrade or two.
    Omega’s core systems seem to be a board with a processor & maybe some associated RAM. Even if he “owns” all other computers, they can only feed him data at standard disk access and communication rates. I’d say he needs more local quantum memory stacks to prevent data starvation in a high demand situation. If I was him & Declan, I’d start adding a dedicated memory stack to each distributed node they’ve hidden & also maybe an extra processor board or two with entangled switches between them, hooked to a backplane for power & cooling, to boost his capabilities. You know the Vorsook have info on him & will be developing new ways to attack, he needs to be prepared. Maybe even have some magical “programs” to counterattack with.

    #291
    John Conroe
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    I think it is safe to say that Omega is VERY interested in staying ahead of the curve. I’ve just assumed that he’s making additions, upgrades, and enhancements on a constant basis.

    #292
    Zul
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    Omega can also take their ship designs and soon we can have our own fleet. Or maybe spy and defense satellites

    #294
    Eric
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    Actually, wouldn’t Omega be a massively paralleled distributed node computer?

    Which of course begs the question of how he could be a quantum computer unless we assume that it’s done through quantum entanglement.

    #296
    Loupy
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    You don’t need to have entanglement to be a quantum computer, just be able to use quantum super positions in your memory, logic circuits & switches. The entanglement would allow instant communication at a distance or extremely rapid data transfers between Omegas on-board switches & distant nodes. If I was Omega, I might try to insert entangled switches into some of the larger data centers around the world to speed up data access.

    #303
    Lost
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    I think it’d be neat to see Omega come up with a solution that combines magic and science, being a product of the two and all. Setting up a global linked array, like what Declan did for Demidova Corp, as a planetary defense/monitoring system for Omega to maintain (linked to the Earth’s or tectonic plates as a power source or something) could be way cool as well.

    #305
    Loupy
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    That would be pretty cool. I think he’d have to bring Declan into something of that scope, as he is described as being limited in magical ability. Plus they may have to come to some sort of arrangement with the larger elementals for that, particularly earth & fire. I think they’d also need runes on the ground, maybe some small facilities along fault lines, linked to both Omega & the faults. Maybe a joint Omega, Demidova Corp. & UN project.

    #306
    Lost
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    Whoops! That was supposed to be “earth’s mantle.”*

    Oh absolutely! That would definitely be a joint project with Declan. I didn’t think about the ancient elementals, that’s a really good point. Maybe Declan will pick up a trick or two in Faerie about communing with the land and making that feasible or something. He’s such an awesome character!

    #311
    Archimedes
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    While from a computer design perspective it makes sense to talk about what could improve a computer (switches, memory, etc), it really doesn’t make sense for Omega. Either as a computer or a character.

    Omega is supposed to be an AI and a quantum computer. That’s two singularity level technologies, and Tanya remarked on that in the books.

    An explanation of Omega getting stronger doesn’t need to be something that would make sense for a normal or real computer. Omega has specifically remarked about designing tech so advanced that humans wouldn’t understand it.

    If quasi technical details were ever appropriate, I would suggest having Omega have upgraded his chips using a combination of his super advanced tech and magic to whatever level the plot requires. Or something that relates to magic Declan figured out. Omega is already a walking Deus ex machina.

    Trying to make that seem more legitimate/explicable with technobabble would just hurt the story. Why would a magical AI quantum computer be constrained by needing to put an entangled server node in Alpharetta to get lower latency times to a bunch of server farms. The DA has never had a hard laws of magic system so it’s not like it’s constrained by what a real world quantum physicist would design

    #312
    Eric
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    I think you missed my point.

    I agree that you don’t need entanglement to have a quantum computer but the vast majority of the hardware he’s actually living on is just ordinary consumer grade stuff.

    The only way that I see for him to access a “3rd bit” is through entanglement.

    Well, he could direct the manufacture of the proper components but it would still take a long time to balance out the sheer volume of non-quantum hardware.

    #314
    Lost
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    Doesn’t it say somewhere in the books that Omega designed the hardware he was living on himself? I would assume with him being omnipresent and all that he’s constantly doing stuff in the background, i.e., upgrading his hardware, producing more creepy quantum bug robot things amongst other things that we’re just not aware of but will become apparent when it needs to.

    #316
    Archimedes
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    Actually Eric, I was addressing Loupy’s original point. Omega from a hardware perspective would be a distributed computer.

    My statement was about not wanting to constrain omega to normal hardware (inasmuch as quantum hardware is conceptualized now) like loupy was describing in the original post.

    I don’t want the reason omega got stronger to be because he increased his t1 cache size or got a shipment of Optane chips that just got released

    #321
    Blues
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    “I think it’d be neat to see Omega come up with a solution that combines magic and science, being a product of the two and all. Setting up a global linked array, like what Declan did for Demidova Corp, as a planetary defense/monitoring system for Omega to maintain (linked to the Earth’s or tectonic plates as a power source or something) could be way cool as well.”

    I love this. How about satellites with magic links to form a magic sphere? Lot of fun applications I’d bet. Power from solar panels as well.

    #327
    Eric
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    Archimedes –

    I was actually responding to Loupy. I guess we’ll all have to start remembering to address our posts. <shrug>

    Anyway, my point was that he “lives” on every computer on earth that he can access.

    #330
    Loupy
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    Archimedes – I agree with you about the actual details of Omega getting more powerful, I was primarily addressing some of the basic concepts. A computer, quantum, magical or both, needs a way to process information, rapid access to the information & in Omega’s case entangled links to his distributed nodes. How he does this is up to him because, as you say, his designs are way past our distant concepts. Who know, he could be using quantum holographic memory & virtual particle processing all linked together by magic in some sort of Schrodinger’s Cat type suspended super position system. Like all the techno magical babel? 🙂
    Eric – While I agree that Omega owns & can access any standard computer or internet connected device he wants, I don’t think he lives there. He’s probably sitting back in his comfy quantum distributed net & using virtual agents to take care of most standard business & inquiries, while concentrating on whatever is higher on his priority list. After his encounter with the Vorsook DNA based computer though, I think it’s a safe bet he’s busy designing & build upgrades to his main quantum cores. The Vorsook will certainly be preparing newer & better ways to attack him, so if he doesn’t want to get eaten, he has to step up his game & a high volume of standard computers will be no help against that kind of attack.

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