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- March 24, 2019 at 3:54 am #622
Hear me out before you yell at me! I made a post some time ago asking if this or if WereDecklan were possible. This was before I read the newest book and saw the effects Senkas blood had on his magic. BUT. In college arcane, Tanya gave Declan her blood to heal his jaw and ribs plus any bruising, and they immediately went to train Declans magic at the warehouse. He seemed to have no issue whatsoever accessing his magic. So I am wondering if Declan could become a vampire-witch if it was Tanya who turned him? Tanyas blood is crazy special after all.March 24, 2019 at 9:42 pm #627
True enough, but the injuries he had in DD were worse than in College Arcane. Also he had had three days to heal already, using healing glyphs & his aunt’s charms, so by the time Tanya gave him some blood, he didn’t need a whole lot of healing, being mostly stiff & sore. Remember he was strong enough to fight Dellwood that morning.
It seems he would still be able to use magic, but the cellular mechanism allowing magic, were or vampire powers would have to switch from one to the other. He can’t have accelerated healing while pulling external power. If he was turned into a were, he might be able to wolf out, but if he then used magic, there would be no fast healing. It may take time & need practice to do it fast & at will. Same thing with being a vampire probably, although Chris can use vamp powers as well as his aura & fast healing. Vampires do develop a talent(s) as they get older, so his vampire power could be magic. I think I speculated on this in the Thoughts & Questions thread.March 24, 2019 at 9:57 pm #628
Correct me of I am wrong, but after taking Senkas blood, Declan could barely do magic, and when he did the healing effects stopped or lessened right? Was it clarified if this was because he still had injuries or simply because her blood was in his system? It wasn’t like he could switch from on to the other, so just the blood being in his system caused issues right? I think it was days later that he was teaching the class and struggling, he was pretty much healed by then as well. It would be the same thing back in college arcane, even if he had no injury at all, he used the blood RIGHT before training in magic and it did heal him, he still struggled at the buffet when he took his arm slings off and discovered he was mostly all better in demon divine. I will have to go back the demon divine and check the senka blood part but please let me know if you remember how it worked exactly.
I really like the idea of magic being his vampire ability. Maybe a temporary loss in magic as he is first changed and it grows with time? Some magic resistance as well? Even if he can only do a little bit of magic, his amulets that connect to elementals could make him almost on the same level. I do think Tanya should change someone at some point so we can see what happens. I bet when Tony grows up she would be a candidate.March 24, 2019 at 10:23 pm #629
I think the vampire blood switches the cells to fast healing, but he is capable of using external magic if he REALLY needed to. He was still able to use his own internal magic without affecting the bloods healing effect. If he pulled power from around him, his body would go back to the standard healing speed.
In College Arcane his injuries were well on the way to being healed by the time Tanya gave her blood, so he was healed almost immediately & could use his magic later without affecting the process. I don’t think they knew about it at the time though, since the theory only came to light from CAECO’s mom’s research in DD.
I can’t seem to find my post on vampire witches, but I don’t see why one wouldn’t have been turned sometime over the last few thousand years. Vampires & witches are closely associated in the books, so it’s almost a certainty. What happens afterward is anyone’s guess. My thought was, if one was turned & retained their magic, it might grow like other vampire powers & an old witch/vamp would be a major magical power. Maybe one of the old ones Senka won’t talk about.March 24, 2019 at 10:31 pm #631
Found it! Questions & Thoughts, 25 Oct 2018. Things that make you go Hmmm.March 25, 2019 at 5:31 pm #632
You bring up some really good points. But the thing is, Declan has a ton of internal power too, but he still struggled doing simple things. While it is likely that it isn’t possible for him to be a vampire, I do think there is a small chance of that, or something similar happening. I started rereading Winterfall yesterday and am very curious if Dragons use magic, it was said that Dragons are resistant to “what we call magic”, that their scales specifically protect them. As cool as vampire Declan would be, I like new things and him somehow combining with dragons whether it be in a weredragon form or some sort of witch ritual that gives him dragon like attributes sounds really cool. Plus, his babies would be more unique and when they grew up they could have babies with grown up wolf and cora. The only thing is.. Ok I admit I am being way too picky here. It bugs me a bit that Stacia is a wolf. They are just so common. I know she is unique because of Chris’ blood but it would be way more awesome if she was a weretiger or something more unique/bigger/stronger. One thing that I found odd is Stacia (I think) has half blue half green aura when Chris looks at her, while Nadine (the were wolverine), is like 60 percent animal 40 percent human aura. I would think Chris’ blood would increase Stacias power/animalness.
Apologies for the stream of consciousness I decided to type out as there is no form or reason to it. If you get a chance checkout the book series I recommended in the thread where someone asks for stories like the demon accords, I think it is currently 4th from the top, you will not regret it I promise you.
March 26, 2019 at 4:52 pm #634
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I would think Declan could become a vampire, if he was willing, but it’s up to Mr. Conroe whether it happens or not.
It was mentioned in Winterfall (IIRC) that dragons naturally used magic to fly & that may confer some immunity to “our” type of magic. It’s not total immunity obviously since Declan used fire & lightning to zap Trygon.
I believe most weres are half-n-half blue/green & Chris noted Nadine’s mostly green with surprise. It may be due to her father being a shaman or a result of her link with Director Stewart intensifying her LV. Chris’s blood & aura may just have streamlined Stacia’s LV to make it more efficient. A better strain, if you will.June 8, 2019 at 10:56 pm #736samlenParticipant
I am late to this thread but if I remember correctly there has to be a blood exchange going both ways. Declan has had ‘donations’ from both Tanya and Senka but they never put the ‘bite’ on him.June 9, 2019 at 11:46 am #738
In the second or third book the process was detailed by Dr. Singh. The individual being turned is drained of blood over a period of a few days, while being given blood by the vampire. This weakens the prospect’s immune system & allows the Vampire Virus (V2) to take an ever firmer hold of the person being turned. The final stage is where the victim is drained to the point of “death” & given more vampire blood to saturate their system with V2. The victim then either turns or dies. The turn ratio varied from book to book, but I think it was a 50/50 shot at best. The survival/turn ratio may be better with blood from an older vampire (a higher concentration of V2 in their blood) or Tanya’s blood, but she hasn’t turned anyone… yet. “Biting” the prospect may or may not have anything to do with the process. We don’t know if the vampire’s saliva has anything to contribute. So far it’s just drain & give blood.
The Lycan Virus (LV) is more aggressive, but also more lethal. The survival ratio for LV bites also varies from book to book, but I think it was nailed down in Rogue at about a 30% survival/turn rate. The rest died.
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